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[General Chat] 복지국가 덴마크 국민들의 '무서운' 정신상태 (행복지수 1위의 진정한 원동력)

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Brave New Denmark -

A Model For The USA?

By Ted Twietmeyer
1-8-8


멋진 신 덴마크 -

미국을 위한 모델?

Ted Twietmeyer씀

(소설 Brave New World [멋진신세계]를 패러디 한 타이틀 -
소설에 나오는 Brave New World는 계급사회를 배경으로
인간이 태어나기 전부터 제조되는 사회라고 함)

Recently, I received an email from a former London Police officer,
Philip Jones. Philip has given me permission to use his email
and his full name. His powerful and highly articulate essay describes
in detail what life in Denmark is like today, after living there more
than ten years. Many of us have our own internal visions of what
foreign countries are like which we may never have the opportunity
to visit. These ideas are most often based on the media and
classes in school. But it was a total surprise about what Philip had
to say about Denmark and it's amazing placid lifestyle. I'll never
look at a tin of Christmas cookies made in Denmark the same!

최근 전(前) 런던 경찰관이었던 Philip Jones씨로부터 메일을 받았다.
그는 내가 그의 이메일과 그의 이름을 사용하는 걸 허락해 주었다.
그의 힘있고 분명한 에세이는 10년 이상 그곳에 살아본 뒤에,
오늘날 덴마크에서의 삶이 어떤 것인지를 자세히 묘사해준다.
우리들 중 많은 사람들은 다른 나라들에 대해서 나름의 주관적인 견해를
가지고 있다, 비록 우리가 그 나라를 방문해 본 적이 전혀 없었음에도 말이다.
외국에 대한 이런 주관적인 견해들은 대부분 미디어나 학교에서의 수업등을 통해서 형성된다.
그렇지만 덴마크와 덴마크의 놀랍도록 잔잔한
라이프스타일에 관해서 Philip이 말할 수 밖에 없었던 사실들은 놀라움 그 자체였다.
이제는 예전과 똑같은 시선으로 덴마크에서 제조된 크리스마스 쿠키 한통을
쳐다보는 것조차 불가능할 것이다!

Most people are quite aware that the UK is a model police state,
tightening the screws a little more each day on its citizens. One
could easily think that Denmark and perhaps other EU countries are
following the same model. What we learn from Philip's detailed
description of Denmark is that this is not the case. Denmark is a
country with the most passive people one could ever imagine. How
this mindset was accomplished is a bit of a mystery. Perhaps the
globalists found every weakness in Danish culture, exploiting each
one to the fullest. It does appear it to be like Philip has named his
essay, "Brave New Denmark."

대부분의 사람들은 영국이 경찰국가의 모델로서 날이 갈수록 시민들의
삶을 조금씩 더 쥐어짜나가고 있다는 사실을 알고있다. 그렇다면 덴마크나
다른 EU국가들도 그 똑같은 방식을 따를 거라는 걸 쉽게 추측할 수 있을 것이다.
우리가 덴마크에 관한 Philip의 세세한 설명으로 부터 알 수 있는 것은,
덴마크에서는 단순히 이것이 문제가 아니라는 것이다.
덴마크는 상상할 수 있는 가장 수동적인 국민들로 이루어진 나라다.
어떻게 한 국가의 국민들이 이런 사고방식을 가지게 되었는지는 약간 미스테리다.
아마도 글로벌리스트들이 덴마크 문명의 모든 약점들을 끄집어내서
하나하나 최대치로 착취해 내서 이런 사고방식을 형성시켰는지도 모른다.
그래서 Philip이 그의 에세이 제목을 "Brave New Denmark."로 지은 듯 싶다.

The United States is turning into a hybrid of the UK and Denmark.
New laws have been passes to help control what everyone thinks
in the United States, while at the same time doing everything
possible to help the people ignore the effects of growing
government behind the scenes. Draconian laws are quickly and
easily passed by formulating excuses or events so people will not
grumble too much. If everyone in the United States were as
dedicated to the Constitution and Bill of Rights as Ron Paul
supporters are, none of this would be happening.

미국은 점점 영국과 덴마크를 섞은 듯한 모습으로 변해가고 있다.
사람들의 사고방식을 규제하는 것을 촉진시킬 법안들이 미국에서는
통과되고 있다. 그러는 동안 막후에서는 사람들이 거대화되는 정부가
가져다 줄 영향에 대해서 신경쓰지 않도록 모든일을 벌이고 있는 것이다.
Draconian law(엄격한 법안)들이 현재 상황에 대한 변명등을 이유로
쉽고 빠르게 통과되고 있고 사람들은 여기에 대해서 그다지 불만을
가지지 않을 것이다.(아마도 경제상황이 안 좋은 것들을 구실로
유럽스타일의 큰 정부를 지향하는 듯한 법안들을 잽싸게 통과시켜버린
것에 대한 얘기인 듯 함) 만약에 모든 미국인들이 Ron Paul의 지지자들만큼
"the Constitution and Bill of Rights"(미국 독립당시에 만든 권리장전뭐시기
그런 것인듯;;; 뭐 별로 중요한 부분은 아니니까)에 충실했다면 이런 일은 결코
일어나지 않았을 것이다.

Today sports scores, video games and the internet are all that
most people care about. They no longer care about each other or
what big government is doing to them. A non-caring state of mind
is also the same characteristic the Danes have as Philip so
eloquently expresses. So without further delay, here is Philip's
unedited email:

요줌 대부분의 사람들이 신경쓰는 것들은 스포츠경기 스코어, 비디오게임,
인터넷같은 것들이 전부이다. 그들은 더 이상 서로에게 혹은 "큰 정부"가
그들에게 어떤 영향을 줄 지에 대해서 걱정하지 않는다.
이 "무관심한" 심리상태는 Philip이 분명히 표현하듯,
덴마크인들이 가지고 있는 것과 똑같은 성격 이다.
더 이상 지체할 필요없이, Philip의 편집되지 않은 이메일을 소개한다.






'Brave New Denmark'
Dear Ted,
Before I begin, perhaps I should tell you something about myself. I
am a 49 year old British man, married to a Danish lady and living in
Denmark. Prior to moving here back in 1996, I had spent 15 years
as Police Officer in London and before that 6 years in the military.

'멋진 신 덴마크'
Ted씨께,
시작하기 전에 저에 대한 몇가지를 말씀드려야 할 것 같군요.
저는 49살의 영국인이고 덴마크 여자와 결혼해서 덴마크에서 살고 있습니다.
1996년에 이곳으로 이주하기 전에는 15년간 런던에서 경찰관으로 근무했고
그 전에는 6년간 군대에서 복무했지요.

I was raised in the industrial area of South Wales and come from
`blue collar` stock. Up until quite recently, I had been a believer in
the `democratic` process and a staunch conservative.

저는 남부 웨일스의 공업지역에서 노동자 가정에서 자랐습니다.
꽤 최근까지 저는 '민주적 절차'에 대한 믿음을 갖고 있었고, 확고한
보수주의자 였습니다.

My awakening began upon my relocation to this small, cold
northern country. Up until then, I had `bought` into the consensus
viewpoint, and although as a serving officer in London, I had been
aware of all the rapid changes taking place in society, I had not
realised that these changes were orchestrated and designed, as
opposed to `evolutionary`.

제 자각(自覺)은 이 작고, 추운 북쪽의 국가로 이주하면서부터 사작됐습니다.
그전까지 저는 '합의적관점'을 중시하였고, 런던에서는 경찰관으로 복무하였음에도
사회에서 일어나고있는 모든 급격한 변화에 대해 인식하고 있었습니다.
그렇지만 이러한 변화들이 '진화적인' 것에 반대되는 방향으로
설계되고 지휘되고 있는 줄은 깨닫지 못했습니다.

I had imagined that Denmark would be little more than a smaller
version of my homeland. My wife was/is not much different in
views and culture from myself, and our countries shared a joint
history. For the first half year or so, I didn't take too much notice of
my surroundings, as we were occupied with the day to day
business of setting up our home and all those other mundane
necessities.

저는 덴마크가 그냥 영국을 작게 축소시켜놓은 형태일 거라고 상상해왔습니다.
덴마크인인 아내와 문화적으로나 생각하는 관점등이 크게 다르지는 않았고,
영국과 덴마크는 역사적으로 공유하고 있는 부분이 많았기 때문입니다.
처음 이주해서 약 반년동안은, 새 보금자리를 마련하고
생활 필수품들을 마련하는등의 그날그날의 일에만 열중했기 때문에,
주위 환경에 대해서 그다지 신경쓰지 않았습니다.

It was when I was able to sit back and take note of my new
environment that I was struck immediately at how different Danes
were from British people. My wife had lived in the UK for some
years and I soon learned that she was not typical of her country
folk. The most immediate, and annoying character trait I noticed
was the habitual need Danes have to tell other people how
wonderful Denmark is, and how much better everything is
compared to other places. To even the casual onlooker, it was
clear that they were deeply delusional.

그렇지만 느긋하게 자리에 앉아서 새로운 환경에 대해서 신경쓸
여유가 생기자마자 영국인들과 너무나 다른 덴마크인들에 대해
충격을 받게 되었습니다.
제 아내는 영국에서 몇년간 살았었는데, 저는 덴마크에서 살게되면서
제 아내가 전형적인 덴마크인과는 다른 사람이었다는 걸 곧 알게 되었습니다.
(덴마크인들이 자기 마누라랑 비슷할 거라고 착각하고 있다가
뒤통수맞았다는 말임)
가장 즉각적으로 제가 알아차리게 된 덴마크인들의 짜증나는
성격적인 특성은 덴마크인들이
'얼마나 덴마크가 훌륭한지, 얼마나 다른 곳들에 비해 모든것들이
월등한지'에 대해 습관적으로 말해야만
직성이 풀리는 사람들이라는 점입니다.
그냥 구경꾼처럼 무심하게 쳐다보더라도 그 사람들이 심하게 맛이 갔다는 게
명확히 보일정도입니다.

Denmark is an okay place, but no better and a degree worse than
some places. It is small, with a population of around 5,000,000.
Until very recently, it has been very homogenous, (and to a great
extent still is) and somewhat isolated, tucked away as it is up on
the top edge of Europe. In fact, if one wished to conduct a `social
experiment`, few places would be better suited, or located. Add to
this the truth that Danish people are by nature in awe of authority,
compliant and passive. Forget the `Vikings` of yore. Most of them
settled in Britain, Northern France and down the Volga.

덴마크는 괜찮은 곳이긴 합니다만,
절대 다른 어떤 곳보다도 좋은 그런 곳은 아니며
몇몇 나라들에 비해선 훨씬 별로입니다. 이곳은 인구 5백만의 작은 나라지요.
꽤 최근까지, 이 나라는 매우 단일화된 국가였고 (아직까지 그렇습니다),
어느정도 고립되었으며, 유럽대륙의 북쪽끝에 있었기 때문에
눈에 잘 띄지 않았습니다. 사실, 누군가가 '사회적인 실험'을 해보고 싶었다면,
여기보다 더 적당한 곳은 없었을 겁니다.
거기다 덴마크인들은 천성적으로 권력에 대해서
경외심을 갖고 있고, 순종적이며, 수동적입니다.
옛날옛적의 '바이킹'을 생각하지 마세요.
그 사람들(옛 바이킹)은 영국, 프랑스 북부, 구 소련지역에 정착했으니까요.
(옛날의 강인하던 바이킹들은 전부다 다른곳에 정착했고
지금 덴마크에 남은 바이킹들은 순종적이고 수동적인 사람들 밖에
안남아있는 것 같다는 얘기)

I began to question this pride in all things Danish. The food variety
and quality was nothing like as good as in the UK. The public
infrastructure was inadequate, and oh so slow. Monopoly was the
name of the game in business. No competition whatsoever. Danish
produce and Danish produce only was the rule of things. The sheer
cost of living in the place was/is at least 2-3 times that of the UK,
and yet everyone was asking me so proudly if I felt lucky to be
living in Denmark. Then there is the much vaunted Danish Medical
System. Again according to Danes `the best in the world`. But
that's just the thing, it wasn't/isn't and the standards are
dropping continually, whilst the costs of prescription medicine and
Dental care, even on the back of this `public health service` are out
of control.

덴마크의 모든 것들에 대한 이런 자부심에 대해
저는 의문을 갖기 시작했습니다.
식료품들은 그 종류에 있어서나 질적으로나 영국에 비해서 형편없었습니다.
공공기반시설은 부족했고, 너무 느렸습니다.
시장은 독점적이었습니다. 어쨌거나 경쟁은 존재하지 않았습니다.
덴마크 생산품, 혹은 덴마크 생산품'만'이 규칙이었습니다.
덴마크에서 사는데 드는 순수한 비용은 적어도 영국의 2-3배는 들었습니다.
(영국도 물가높기로 이름난 곳인데;;;)
그런데도, 모든 덴마크인들은 제게
'덴마크에서 살게되서 행운이라고 생각하지 않느냐'고 묻고 있었습니다.
그리고, 사람들이 칭찬해 마지않는 '덴마크의 의료시스템' 말인데요.
아참, '덴마크인들'의 말에 따르자면 '세계에서 최고'라고 하네요.
그렇지만 그건 그냥 하나의 시스템일 뿐입니다.
그건 이전에도 표준이 아니었고, 지금도 아니며,
지속적으로 질이 떨어지고 있습니다.
반면에 처방약의 가격이나 치과치료비는 그 '공공의료보험'의 지원을 받고있음에도, 통제가 안될정도로 치솟고 있죠.

As a former London Police Officer, I was often asked to give
lectures at Odense University, on matters relating to crime etc. Over
the next few years, I gave dozens of these presentations, and was
shocked at how unquestioning and compliant young Danish people
were. They were immune even to provocation, which I used
on several occasions in order to get a response, but usually to no
avail. I was able to attend several classes over this period, and
was appalled and shocked at the levels of Marxist/Feminist views
being foisted on the young people. The history of their country prior
to the end of WWII is just not taught at all, and very few Danes have
any grasp of their country's past. Almost all the teachers were
female (of a sort), and the classes themselves were
overwhelmingly populated by girls. Almost every lecture I attended
was weighted heavily towards a `European` future, and very few
were not heavily biased in that direction. And yet, pardoxically, the
`Denmark is the best country in the world, with the best education
system, best medical system, best social system, best economy,
ad nauseum was also a constant theme. This is the same
message transmitted through every media outlet, and Danes take
love of flag to a new height, even decorating Xmas trees and
birthday cakes with that national banner. This apparent
contradiction, caused me great confusion at the time, but no
longer. Today, I understand.

전직 런던 경찰관이어서 그런지, 저는 종종 Odense대학에서
범죄문제 등에 대해서 강의를 해달라는 요청을 받곤 했습니다.
지난 몇년간 저는 이런 프리젠테이션을 십여차례정도 가졌는데,
덴마크 젊은이들의 '아무 질문도 없고, 고분고분한'태도에 놀랐습니다.
그들은 도발적인 태도에 대해서 조차 면역이 되어 있었는지,
제가 학생들의 반응을 끌어내기 위해 몇몇 상황에서 써 본 도발은
아무런 쓸모가 없었습니다.
이 기간동안에 몇몇 강의를 수강해 볼 기회가 있었는데,
그들이 젊은 학생들에게 가르치는 엄청나게 마르크스적이고
페미니즘적인 강의의 내용에 간담이 서늘해지는 충격을 받았습니다.
학생들은 2차세계대전 이전의 그들의 역사에 대해서는 전혀 배우지
않았고, 덴마크의 과거에 대해서 조금이라도 파악하고 있는
덴마크인들은 거의 없었습니다.
대부분의 교사들이 여자들이었고(혹은 그런 종류의;;;), 강의실
자체도 압도적으로 여학생들이 많았습니다.
제가 들은 대부분의 강의들은 '유럽방식의' 미래에 대해서
지나치게 호의적이었고, 그 방식에 대해서 호의적이지
않은 강의는 거의 없었습니다.
그렇지만 역설적으로, '덴마크는 최고의 교육시스템,
최고의 의료 시스템, 최고의 사회시스템, 최고의 경제를 자랑하는
최고의 국가이다'라는 지겨운 소리 역시 일관된 강의의 주제였습니다. 이런 똑같은 메시지들은 모든 미디어를 통해서 전달되고,
덴마크사람들은 자국국기에 대한 사랑을 새로운 차원으로 끌어올렸습니다.
크리스마스 트리나 생일케이크 마저도 자국국기를 장식해 놓는 것입니다.
이런 명확한 모순은 저를 혼란에 빠뜨리기도 했습니다만, 더 이상은
그렇지 않습니다. 이제 저는 이해하고 있습니다.

This acceptance/compliance extended into society in general,
where complaints against the system of any kind were in very short
supply, or non existent to be truthful. With every new law, or
government inspired price increase or tax hike, would come the
standard response "there's nothing you can do about" or in Danish,
"Saadan er Danmark", which literally means, "that's how it is in
Denmark".

이런 수용/순응적인 태도는 사회전반에 퍼져있는데,
이 시스템에 대한 불평은 어떤종류이건 간에 찾아보기 어렵고,
솔직히 말하자면 거의 존재하지 않습니다.
모든 새로운 법안, 정부정책에 의한 가격상승
또는 세금폭탄 등에 대한 반응은 한결같습니다.
"어쩔수 없는 거잖아"
덴마크어로는 "Saadan er Danmark"인데,
이걸 문자그대로 해석하면 "덴마크에서는 원래 그런거야"입니다.

Denmark is the country of rules. There are rules for everything
here. Even the rules seem to have rules, and the people have an
annoying way of interfering in each others lives to the point of self
regulation. One of the world's smallest countries has one of the
`biggest` governments, and `The State` is by far the biggest
employer here, so people depend upon it for their livelihood.

덴마크는 규칙의 나라입니다. 여기서는 모든 것들에 규칙이 붙어요.
심지어 규칙들 자체에 대한 규칙들도 있는것 같습니다.
거기다 사람들은 짜증나는 방식으로 다른 사람의 삶에 서로 간섭을
하는데, 거의 '자가통제 수준'에 도달할 정도가 될때까지 그렇게 합니다.
세계에서 가장 작은 나라들 중 하나인 나라가
세계에서 가장 '거대한' 정부를 가지고 있습니다.
그리고 그 '정부'가 이곳에서는 압도적으로 가장 큰 고용주이며
사람들은 그들의 삶을 정부에 의존합니다.

The ID Card was introduced to Denmark back in the 1970's. Every
Dane, or foreign resident here has a `personal number` and unlike
the `National Insurance` number in the US or UK, it must be quoted
in order to do almost everything. One cannot get a bank account,
travel, do business of any kind, learn to drive, drive, be educated
etc etc. without it. It masquerades as a health insurance card, but
has a far more all encompassing purpose. It is also backed up by a
national register data base. The coming Biometric model will simply
be accepted as an `improvement` and or progress.

ID카드는 덴마크에 1970년대에 보급되었습니다.
모든 덴마크인, 외국인 거주자들은 '개인번호'를 갖습니다.
미국이나 영국의 `National Insurance number'와는 달리
이것은 거의 모든일들을 처리하기 위해 반드시 필요합니다.
이것 없이는 은행계좌개설이나 여행, 모든종류의 사업,
운전연수, 운전, 교육등등이 불가능합니다.
이것은 단순한 건강보험증인것처럼 위장하고 있지만,
훨씬 더 광범위한 목적을 가지고 있습니다.
이것은 국가등록 데이터베이스에 의해 지원받고 있습니다.
앞으로는 생체측정모델이 '개선'혹은 진보된 기술로써 사용될
것입니다.

Conformity in all things is the way of life here. People dress the
same, cut their hair the same, eat the same, do the same, like the
same, say exactly the same phrases, in fact, modern Danish is
more a language of phraseology than anything else (Newspeak ?).
They like the same food (and will serve the same `fayre` to guests
every time, no matter which Danish home one visits). An evening
out at a Danish household, could/can be scripted beforehand, from
start to end.

모든 것들을 다른사람들과 일치시키는 것이 이곳의 삶의 방식입니다.
사람들은 똑같은 옷을 입고, 같은 머리스타일을 하며,
같은 음식을 먹고, 같은 행동을 하고, 똑같은 것을 좋아합니다.
그리고 정확하게 똑같은 구절을 얘기합니다.
사실, 현대 덴마크어는 다른 어느 나라의 언어보다도
'어법의 언어'입니다. (신 언어?)
사람들은 같은 음식을 좋아합니다 (그래서 손님들이
그 집에 몇번을 방문했든간에 똑같은 `fayre`만 매번 내놓을 겁니다.)
덴마크 가정집에 초대받아서 저녁식사를 하는 과정은
처음부터 끝까지 사전에 짜여진대로 흘러갈 겁니다.

Danish women and girls have with a few exceptions, become
almost androgynous in appearance, and most are fiercely feminist
in their views, actions and manners. Danish men are for the most
part emasculated. Danes love their country, but will not fight for it.
Danes loathe all things foreign, and resist all such influences, to the
point where their shops have very little on the shelves, and what
there is is rediculously expensive, and yet, they absolutely fail to
recognise or resist the looming shadow of the European
Superstate, still believing it to be something they can just walk away
from when they have had enough.

덴마크의 여자들에게는 몇가지 예외적인 점들이 있습니다.
외모적으로는 거의 중성적이고, 관점이나 행동,
태도에 있어서 지독한 페미니스트입니다.
덴마크 남자들은 대부분의 경우에 나약합니다.
덴마크인들은 자신의 나라를 사랑합니다.
그렇지만 국가를 위해 싸우지는 않을 겁니다.
덴마크인들은 모든 외제품들을 혐오하며, 외제품으로 인해
영향을 받는 걸 거부합니다. 그 결과로 인해서 가게 진열대에
살 물건이 거의 없고, 진열되어 있는 물건이 말도안될 정도로
비싸게 되는 수준에 다다를때까지도 말입니다.
그럼에도(그렇게 외국것들을 싫어함에도),
그들은 아직까지도 음습해오는 '유럽단일국가'의 출현에 대해서는
전혀 인식하지도 저항하지도 못하고 있으며 여전히,
그것이 단순히
'자신들이 더 이상 못참게 되면 그냥 탈퇴해버리면 되는'
것으로 믿고있습니다.

*자기나라를 그렇게 사랑한다면서 정작 점점더 덴마크의
독립성을 훼손시키고 있는 EU에 대해서는 전혀 신경쓰지도 않고 있는
덴마크인들의 역설적인면에 대한 글쓴이의 생각인 듯 함

Danes rarely smile, are very reserved to the point of being rude,
and yet, a recent (ish) opinion poll carried out throughout the EU
showed them to be the most content of Europe's people. It was
this that really got my juices flowing. Danes had been telling me for
nearly eight years that `they had it so good`. But they didn't. Not at
all. They had it good like a bird in a cage has it good.

덴마크인들은 잘 웃질 않으며, 무례하다고 여겨질 정도로 과묵합니다.
그런데도 아직, 최근의 EU를 통한 여론조사에 의하면 덴마크인들이
'유럽에서 가장 행복한 사람들'이라고 합니다.
이걸보고 있자니 X돌아버릴 지경입니다.
덴마크인들은 거의 8년동안 제게 '그들은 정말로 혜택받았다'
고 말해왔습니다. 그렇지만 절대 그렇지 않습니다.
그 사람들이 혜택받기는 했지요,
마치 새장속의 새가 혜택받은 것처럼요.

I had the feeling even back then that if one made too many
comments of an unfavourable `Anti Denmark`nature, then just
maybe my residiency might be revoked, or I might come into
contact with the `State Authorities`, (Danes are encouraged to `Spy`
on each other and do so with gusto). Of course no such thing
occured, but the feeling was there. Such is the insideous nature of
Danish society, which heralds `Free speech` as an inalienable right
(As in the Mohammad Drawings) and yet damns that same `free
Speech` to foreigners or dissenters

그 당시에도 저는 '만약에 누군가가 반(反)덴마크적인 성향을
드러내는 말을 너무 많이 한다면, 영주권을 박탈당하거나,
'정부기관'에 불려가는게 아닌가 하는 생각까지 했습니다.
(덴마크 사람들은 서로를 '감시'할 것을 권장받으며
실제로도 열정을 가지고 다른사람들을 '감시'하고 있습니다.)
물론 그런 일이야 일어나지 않았지만, 그런 느낌을 받았다는게
문제입니다. 바로 그런 것들이, 겉으로는 '자유 발언권'을
빼앗을 수 없는 권리라고 말하면서도(모하메드 그림에서 처럼),
외국인들이나 반대자들에 대해서는 그들의 '자유발언'을 이유로
비난하는 음침한 덴마크 사회의 본성입니다.

*국민들이 워낙에 일치단결해서 덴마크 생활을 찬양하는 것이
이해가 안되서 '혹시나 덴마크에 대해서 혹은 덴마크의 생활에
대한 불만을 누군가에게 얘기하면 동네사람들에게 찍혀서
정부기관에 불려가는게 아닐까'라는 의구심을 품게되는 수준에까지
이르렀다는 그런 내용;;;
자기가 보기에는 생활이 X같은데 자기 주변사람들이 전부 자신들이
행복하다고 말하고 있으면 충분히 그런 의심이 들것 같기도 함;;;

By the end of the 1990's, I had begun to understand the extent to
which the Danish population had been completely indoctrinated. Any
form of criticism was fiercly resented. Nobody ever complained
about anything of an official nature. Nearly everybody I knew, or
those I saw speaking on TV seemed to believe that the Danish
Government wished only good things for them. That the ever
burgeoning tax burden was necessary, even a good thing. We are
speaking of an income tax of on average 50% plus a sales tax of
25%. This level of taxation is across the board, and includes tax on
cars, houses, food, and well, everything you can imagine could be
taxed is taxed and then some. And all prices on all things rise on
31st January every year, without fail. This is just understood and
accepted without comment by the majority of the people. "Saadan
er Danmark".

1990년대가 끝나갈 무렵, 저는 덴마크 국민들이 완전히
세뇌되었다는 사실을 깨닫기 시작했습니다.
어떤 형태의 비판도 맹렬한 분노를 불러일으겼습니다.
아무도 공식적인 어떤것들에 대해서 불평하지 않았습니다.
제가 아는 거의 모든사람들, 혹은 TV화면 속에서 얘기하는
사람들은 '덴마크 정부가 국민들에게 오로지 좋은 일들만
일어나기를 바라고 있다'고 믿고있는 듯 했습니다.
그러니까, 가중되기만 하는 세금부담은 필요한 것이었고,
심지어 좋은 것이라고 믿는 것이었습니다.
지금 우리가 얘기하고 있는 세금은 50%의 평균소득세,
거기다 25%의 소득세를 말하는 겁니다.
이런 레벨의 세율은 전 분야에 걸쳐져 있는데,
자동차, 집, 음식, 그리고 상상할 수 있는 모든 것들에 세금이 붙고,
그 세금에 대해 또 세금이 붙고 그런식입니다.
그리고 모든 제품들의 가격은 매년 1월 31일에,
한번도 거르지 않고 오릅니다.
대부분의 사람들은 이런 일을 이해하며,
불평한마디 없이 받아들입니다.
"Saadan er Danmark".

When my wife and I tried to explain to people that in the UK, we paid
a fraction of the Danish tax burden, and still managed at least a
parity in social welfare, and medical care, they wouldn't believe it.
When we told them that the food in DK was of an inferior quality,
with no variety and rediculously priced. They again wouldn't hear of
it. I just could not be.

제 아내와 제가 덴마크 사람들에게, 영국에서는
덴마크의 세금에 비하면 일부분정도에 해당하는 세금만 내고도,
비슷한 정도의 사회복지. 의료 서비스를 받았다고 말해도
그 사람들은 믿으려 하지 않았습니다.
우리가 그 사람들에게 덴마크 식료품들은 질이 낮고
종류도 얼마 없으며 말도 안되게 비싼가격이라고 말했을 때,
그 사람들은 역시나 들으려 하지도 않았습니다.
그럴리가 없는 것이었으니까요.

We travelled to the US three times between 1996 and 2001
spending a total of fourteen weeks there and travelling some six
thousand miles. Those three `trips` were milestones in my life, and I
was bursting with tales of our adventures, but upon returning to DK,
not one Danish friend or family member showed any interest
whatsoever in our stories. It was as if we had never been away.
The only people who were at all interested were our `international`
contacts.

우리는 1996년에서 2001년 사이에 3번에 걸쳐서 미국으로
여행을 가서, 총 14주간을 거기서 지내면서
약 6천마일 정도를 여행했습니다.
그 세번의 '여행'이 제 인생의 정점이었으며 저는 우리의 모험에 대한
이야기로 흥분했습니다.
그렇지만 덴마크에 돌아온 뒤에, 덴마크 친구들이나 친지들 중에
우리들의 여행얘기에 대해 관심을 보이는 사람은 아무도 없었습니다.
마치 우리가 여행같은 건 아예 다녀오지도 않은 듯 했습니다.
우리 여행 얘기에 관심을 보인 사람들은 오직
'해외'쪽 지인들 뿐이었습니다.

Now, I might be rambling at this point, but what I am trying to depict
here is a society quite unlike anywhere else, even by European
standards, Denmark is different. If it isn't Danish or Denmark, then
they cannot contemplate it at all.

여기까지 얘기하고 보니 너무 두서없이 지껄였는 지 모르겠네요,
그렇지만 여기서 제가 설명하고자 하는 것은,
다른 어떤 곳과도 전혀 다른 그런 사회의 모습입니다,
유럽인의 관점으로 보더라도 덴마크는 다릅니다.
이게 만약 덴마크나 덴마크인들이 아니었다면
사람들은 이런 사회에 대해 전혀 생각도 못해봤을 겁니다.

I felt totally disaffected with the country, and at that time, even with
no knowledge whatsoever of any `Global Conspiracy`, would say
things to friends such as; " These are not people, they're like `Body
Snatchers`", or "There must be something in the water here", and
even "It's in the food they eat". Little did I understand how close to
the truth I was.

저는 완전히 덴마크에 대해서 반감을 품고 있었습니다.
그리고 그 무렵에 저는 '국제적인 음모'같은 것들에 대해서는
전혀 알지도 못했지만, 제 친구들에게
"그들은 사람같지가 않아, 그들은 좀비들 같아"라거나,
혹은 "이 곳 사람들이 마시는 물에 뭔가를 탄 게 틀림없어",
그리고 심지어는 "사람들이 먹는 음식에 뭔가 들어있는 거야"
같은 얘기를 하려고 했습니다.
제가 하고자 했던 이런 얘기들이 사실인지 아닌지는
몰랐지만 말입니다.

*이런 말도 안되는 가정들이 덴마크에서는
사실일지도 모른다고 비꼬고 있음;;;

Then I started to put the pieces together; the inertia of the youth,
the conformity of it's citizens. The `blind` obedience of the
populace. The apparent contentment being voiced, which was in
obvious conflict with the miserable demeanour of Danish people.
The narrow, insulated `bubble` view of the world around them. The
conditioned state of national denial, refusing to admit even the
possibility that some place else might be in some way better. And
the absolute kicker; the Danish obsession with work. It is the only
thing they talk about. To work is everything, and if one is not in
work, then one is a member of a trade union, which will find some
way of ensuring that one has little or no spare time to think and
consider life, and what is happening all around.

그리고 저는 상황을 정리해 보기 시작했습니다.
젊은이들의 무력함, 국민들의 획일화, 대중들의 '눈먼' 복종.
분명하게 만족감을 표시하지만 그것과는 완전히 상반되는
그들의 처량한 태도.
자신들의 주변세계에 대한 좁고, 단절된 '부풀려진' 관점.
다른 어떤 곳이 자신들이 살고 있는 곳 보다
어떤 면에서는 더 좋은 점이 있을수도있다는 가능성조차
인정하려 들지 않는 '국가적인 부정상태'
그리고 정말로 뜻밖의 사실은. 덴마크 사람들의 일에 대한
집착입니다. 그들은 일 얘기 밖에 안 합니다.
일하는 것이 전부이고, 만약에 누군가가 직장이 없다고 해도
그 사람은 노동조합소속으로, 어떤식으로든 생각이나
자신의 인생에 대해 고찰해볼 시간을 가지는 일이 없도록
보장받을겁니다. 이런일들이 어느 곳에서나 일어나고 있습니다.

*직장을 좀 쉬면서 생각이나 인생계획을 세워보려고 해도
자신이 의무적으로 소속되어 있는 노동조합에서 그렇게 하도록
가만 내버려두지 않을 거라는 뭐 그런 내용이 아닌가 싶은데;;;
영어실력의 한계가 느껴짐;;;

In 2003, I read Sen. Pat Buchannan's book, `The Death Of The
West`. This work set me on the path to discovery, and although I
have moved a little beyond it, the facts and ideas expressed by the
author were in many cases highly relevant to my experiences in
Denmark. But the point is this; on page 77, Sen. Buchanan at the
top of the page makes this quote, "The perfect totalitarian state, is
one where the all powerful political bosses, and their army of
managers, control a population of slaves, who do not have to be
coerced because they love their servitude". This is from Aldous
Huxleys nightmare novel `Brave New World`, and it describes Danes
and Denmark almost to a tee.

2003년, 저는 미 상원의원인 팻 부캐넌의 책 '서구사회의 종말'을
읽었습니다. 이 책을 통해 저는 눈을 뜨게 되었고,
비록 제가 그 때와는 조금 생각이 달라졌을지라도
이 책에 표현된 사실이나 생각들은 많은 경우에서 제가 덴마크에서
체험했던 경험과 맞아떨어집니다.
그렇지만 중요한 점은 이것입니다.
그 책의 77페이지의 제일 윗부분에 이런 인용문이 있습니다.
"완벽한 전체주의 국가라는 것은
모든 강력한 정치지도자들과 그들의 관리자들이
노예상태의 국민들을 통제하는 국가를 말하는데,
국민들이 노예상태로 있는 것을 사랑하기 때문에
그들에게 노예상태를 강요할 필요도 없다."
이것은 올더스 헉슬리의 악몽과도 같은 소설
'멋진신세계'로 부터 나온 개념으로,
덴마크인들과 덴마크를 정확하게 묘사해 줍니다.

I spoke to my wife about this, and she told me that she had read
the book. That in fact it was required reading at `Upper level`
schooling. You see Ted, that is it. Denmark is `Brave New World`. I
set about reading `the work`, and it chilled me to see all the parallels
with Danish Society.

마누라한테 이 얘기를 했더니 그녀가 제게
'자신은 그 책을 이미 읽었다'고 했습니다.
사실, 그 책은 '상위 레벨' 교육과정에서 "권장도서"라더군요.
이해가 되십니까, Ted씨. 이게 덴마크입니다.
덴마크는 '멋진 신세계'에요.
저는 '이 작품'을 읽기 시작했는데요, 덴마크 사회와 일치하는
이책의 모든 부분이 저를 섬뜩하게 합니다.

*덴마크의 실상을 정확하게 묘사해놓은 듯한 책을
자신있게 학생들에게 읽으라고 오히려 권장해주는
정부의 자신감;;;;; 이라고 해야되나...

They have introduced so much of it here. The mindless compliance
and conformity, the androgyny, the totally passive and non
agitative demeanour. The all pervading Social State. The Brain
washing and categorisng of students within the education or rather,
`State indoctrination` program`. The resorting to the use of `Psycho
Analysis` for any form of `anti social` behaviour, which can be
'nothing more than daring to publicly criticise the state, or asking
awkward questions, or young males playing around in classrooms.
The prescription of `happy pills` to supposedly depressed people or
in other words, anyone who begins to see what it is that surrounds
them. The Mass Media, State Education, State Health Service and
all the other avenues of public information tell the same story
incessantly. Denmark is the best country, Danes are the best at
everything. All things Danish, are better than those which are non
Danish. It has created a people so `dumbed down`, so afraid, so
passive, so paradoxically proud yet obviously suffering from a
deep seated inferiority complex. Arrogant, yet totally lacking in self
confidence. Put another way, this is one `mucked up place`.

그들은 이 곳 덴마크에서, 너무나 많은 것들을
접하게 해 주었습니다.
아무 생각없는 복종, 모든사람의 동일화,
남녀구분이 안될정도의 중성화,
완전히 수동적이고 선동적인 태도.
이런 것들만이 만연해 있는 덴마크의 사회상입니다.
교육프로그램, 다른말로 '국가세뇌 프로그램'속에서
세뇌되고 분류되는 학생들.
공개적으로 국가를 비난하거나,
이상한 질문을 하거나,
남학생들이 교실에서 놀고 있다거나하는 등의
'반사회적인' 행동을 치료하기 위한 '정신질환 분석'의 재손질.
(위에 언급된 행위들을 정신질환에 포함시켜
버리기 위해서 '정신질환'에 대한 개념까지
손질했다는 내용인듯)
우울할 것으로 예상되는 사람들, 다시말해
자신들이 어떤곳에 살고있는지 깨닫기 시작한 사람들을 위한
'행복한 알약'의 처방.(프로작을 말하는 거겠죠)
매스미디어, 국가교육, 국가 건강 서비스 그리고
모든 다른 공공정보분야에서는 쉬지도 않고
똑같은 소리만 해댑니다.
'덴마크는 최고의 국가다, 덴마크인들은 모든분야에서 최고다.
모든 덴마크의 것들은 그렇지 않은 것들보다 더 좋다.'
이런 것들이 사람들을 '너무나 단순하고,
너무나 두려워하며, 너무나 수동적인,
깊게 자리한 열등감으로인해 확연히 고통받고 있으면서도
역설적으로 자부심은 가지고 있는' 상태로 만들었습니다.
거만하지만, 자신감은 절대적으로 부족한 상태말입니다.
바꿔말하자면 이 곳은 일종의 '폐허'입니다.

No need of `Tasers`, or heavy handed Police tactics here. Not much
evidence of surveillance cameras either. If the government says inject
your kids with this or that drug, Danes will do it because the
government told them to. When the time comes to be microchipped,
the State will tell them it's for the best and they will do it without
question. Simply without question.

테이저(시위진압용 전기권총)나, 경찰의 강경진압대책은
여기서 필요없습니다. 감시카메라에 찍힌 증거같은것 또한
그다지 필요없어요.
정부가 당신의 자녀에게 이 약과 저 약을 투여하라고 말하면,
덴마크인들은 그렇게 할 겁니다.
왜냐면 정부가 그렇게 시켰으니까요.
미래에 마이크로 칩을 체내에 이식해야 될 때가 오면
정부는 "이게 가장 최선이야"라고 말할 것이고,
그들은 아무런 의심없이 따를 것입니다.
그냥 아무런 질문도 없이요.

Joseph Goebbels said, " Propaganda must be able to be understood by
even the most stupid members of society. Then you can make people
believe that paradise is hell, and hell is paradise".

괴벨스(나치 선동가)가 말했습니다.
"프로파간다란 사회에서 가장 멍청한 사람들조차도
이해할 수가 있는 것이어야 한다. 그래야만 사람들로 하여금
천국이 지옥이라고, 그리고 지옥이 천국이라고
믿도록 만들수가 있는 것이다."

Denmark is not quite `hell`, but it's on it's way there. Yesterday, another
`BS` news report told Danish people than the reason the cost of food
had risen so much was because of problems in Australia and Nigeria.
Well then, that's okay then isn't it. We just have to suck it up, there's
nothing we can do about it`. The State has explained why we now pay
almost double what most people are paying in the rest of Europe for
food, Electricity.oil, clothing, transport, tax etc. etc.

덴마크는 그렇게까지 '지옥'은 아닙니다.
그렇지만 그 곳을 향해가고 있어요.
어제 또다른 '욕나오는' 뉴스에 따르자면
식료품 가격이 호주와 나이지리아 관련 문제들로
인해서 폭등했다고 합니다.
뭐, 그렇다고 한다면 어쩔 수 없는거지요, 안 그래요?
우리는 그냥 받아들여야 합니다. 우리가 거기에 대해
어떻게 할 수 있는 것도 아니니까요.
정부에서는 왜 우리가 다른 유럽국가들에 비해서
식료품, 전기세, 기름값, 의류, 교통비, 세금등등을
두 배가까이 더 내야 하는지에 대해서 설명해 왔습니다.

The fools just accept it. Nobody asks "What has Australia and Nigeria
got to do with a 25% price rise in the cost of Danish Dairy Products,
Bacon, Meats, Bread and the spectrum of food stuffs produced in
Denmark" ? They are told it's down to a recession, or inflation, or some
other (bogus) cyclical economic phenomenon. But the point is, nobody
asks any questions. They are simply `content in their servitude`.

이 바보같은 사람들은 그냥 받아들입니다.
"어떻게 호주랑 나이지리아 관련문제로 인해서
덴마크 생필품, 베이컨, 육류, 빵, 그리고
텐마크에서 생산되는 각종 식료품등의 가격이
25%씩 인상될 수가 있는 겁니까?"
라는 질문은 아무도 하지 않습니다.
정부에서는 경기침체, 인플레이션, 또는 다른 (듣도 보도못한)
주기적인 경제현상 때문이라고 얘기합니다.
그렇지만 중요한 점은, 아무도 어떤 질문도
하지 않는다는 겁니다.
그들은 그냥 노예상태에 만족하고 있는 겁니다.

Recently, the Danish Prime Minister signed the EU Reform Treaty. Then
without bursting into fits of laughter told the Danish people that there
would be no referendum on this `Treaty` as it did not affect Danish
sovereignty. This is clearly a `bare faced` lie, as once ratified, it will
remove Denmarks ablity to decide it's own economy, justice system,
home affairs, defence and a whole lot more. In other words, Denmark
will be a nation no more, except in the daydreams of it's prozac popping
citizenry. When I have tried to explain this to people here, they say
things like "No, our Prime Minister would never do that. He would never
sign such a document". Them when told he already has, I get, "Ah well,
we can always withdraw later if it doesn't work out".

최근, 덴마크 총리가 EU 개혁조약에 서명했습니다.
그러고 나서는 안색하나 안 바꾸고 덴마크 국민들에게
이 조약의 동의 여부에 관한 국민투표는 없을 거라고 말했습니다.
왜냐면 이 조약이 덴마크의 독립성에 아무련
영향을 주지 않기 때문이랍니다.
이건 완전히 뻔뻔한 거짓말입니다.
이 조약이 일단 비준되고 나면, 덴마크는 자국의 경제,
법률시스템, 내정(內政)문제, 국방문제 및
훨씬 더 많은 것들에 대한 결정권을 잃게
될 것입니다.
즉 덴마크는 더 이상 국가가 아니게 된다는 말입니다.
프로작(우울증 치료제)이나 복용하는 덴마크
국민들의 망상속에서는 물론 그렇지 않겠지만요.
제가 이 문제를 이 곳 사람들에게 설명해 보았을 때,
사람들은 이렇게 말했습니다.
"아냐, 우리나라 총리가 그런 일을 할 리가 없어.
그런 조약이라면 총리는 절대 서명 안 했을 거야."
제가 총리가 이미 그런 조약에 서명을 했다고 말하자,
제게 돌아온 대답은
"뭐 글쎄, 어차피 조약에 문제가 있으면
언제든 파기할 수 있는 거겠지"였습니다.

But that's just the point, they won't be able to. Short of declaring armed
resistance, and that's just not the Danish way. To a Dane, raising one's
tone a little above whisper level is considered displaying anger. The
`Feminazi's` here have done their job very well.

그렇지만 그게 문제입니다. 그들은 그렇게 할 수 없을 테니까요.
(마음에 안들다고 조약을 파기하는 일은 불가능하다는 얘기)
무력으로 저항하는 일은 없을 겁니다.
그건 덴마크적이지 않으니까요.
덴마크인들은 속삭이는 정도의 수준보다 조금 더 목소리톤을
높이기만 해도 화내는 걸로 간주합니다.
이 곳의 '페미나치'들(페미니스트+나치의 합성어)이 이런부분
에 있어서는 아주 손을 잘 써놨거든요.

It is my opinion that the EU is running two `Test Models` side by side.
Model one is the UK `1984` type, which is intended for those member
states whose populations are more prone to resistance, and Model two,
the `Brave New World` type, as demonstrated here in DK, for smaller,
less rebellious peoples.

제 생각에는, EU가 지금 두 가지의 '테스트 모델'을
동시에 시험해 보고 있는 것 같습니다.
첫번째 모델은 영국 '1984'(조지오웰의 소설) 타입으로,
이것은 저항하기 쉬운 국민들로 이루어진
국가를 위한 모델입니다.
그리고 두번째 모델른 '멋진 신세계' 타입으로,
지금 이곳 덴마크처럼, 작고, 덜 저항적인 국민들로
이루어진 나라를 위한 모델입니다.

*그러니까, 영국처럼 인구가 많고 국민들이
어느정도 저항정신이 있는 국가의 경우에는
소설 1984에 나오는 것처럼
철저한 감시국가 모델을 적용시키고
덴마크 처럼 인구가 적고 국민들이
저항정신도 없는(노예상태에 만족하고있는)
그런국가의 경우에는 '멋진 신세계'에 나오는 것처럼
미디어등을 통해 태어나면서 부터 국민들을
세뇌시키는 모델을 적용시킨다는 얘기
그런 실험을 동시에 진행시키면서
EU를 하나의 거대한 전체주의국가로
만들기 위한 최상의 모델을 찾고있는 것이 아닌가
하는 이 글을 쓴 사람의 비아냥 섞인 추측인 듯

I have probably not done this topic justice, but if I have introduced you
to what is happening here, that will be my work done. Denmark, is like
nowhere else, and Danes are unlike anyone else, except perhaps the
Swedes and Norwegians, who from what others have said, are
undergoing similar programming.

제가 이 문제에 대해 제대로 다룬건지 모르겠네요.
그렇지만 만약에 저로 인해서 당신이 덴마크에서
어떤 일들이 벌어지고 있는지를 알게 된다면
제 할 일은 다 한 겁니다.
덴마크는 다른 어떤 나라와도 다르며, 덴마크인들은
다른 어느 나라 사람들과도 다릅니다.
아마도 예외를 들자면 스웨덴인들이나 노르웨이인들
정도가 비슷할지도 모르겠네요.
사람들의 말에 따르면 이 두 나라가 덴마크와 비슷한
체제로 운영되고 있다고 하니까요.

Hope it wasn't too tedious.
Regards, Philip .

제 글이 그다지 지루하게 느껴지지는 않았으면 좋겠네요.
잘 지내시길 바라며, Philip

PS. It should be said that of course not every Dane follows this pattern,
but in my experience at least 96% of those I have met during the past
ten years do. Two sites worth visiting for anyone interested in Denmark
are www.heising.dk and www.nylonmanden.dk

추신. 이 말은 꼭 해야겠네요.
물론 당연히 모든 덴마크 사람들이 이런 것은 아닙니다.
그렇지만 제 경험상으로는 적어도 제가 지난 10년간
만난사람들 중 96%정도가 이랬습니다.
덴마크에 흥미가 있는 사람들이라면 누구나
이 두 곳의 사이트를 방문해 보시면 좋을겁니다.
www.heising.dk 그리고 www.nylonmanden.dk

Ted Twietmeyer

www.data4science.net
/> www.bookonmars.info





<이 글에 달린 댓글 중 몇개 해석>

We lived in Roskilde and in Copenhagen in all of 2005. Sweden for 6
months.
Phillip is right on the point. Totally right and truthful. The place is mind
numbing. Totally gone on to the NWO..

All the best, Joe & Janet

저희는 Roskilde 과 Copenhagen에서 2005년을 보냈고
스웨덴에서 6달 살아봤습니다
Phillip이 정확하게 봤어요. 전부다 맞는 말이고 사실입니다.
거기는 완전히 전체주의국가가 되어 버렸어요.

Joe & Janet 의 댓글

*NWO - New World Order의 약자로
전체주의적인 하나의 세계정부의 출현을 의미함


Just read your introduction and Phillips's article on the Danes and
Denmark posted at Rense.com. As an American who has lived in
Denmark for the past 6 years I have to tell you that Phillip does an
excellent job of describing the Danes and their country. I love to play up
the John Wayne image of americans and I always seem to be on the
opposite side of any argument. Me against a entire office of Danes is
pretty much an even match because as Phillip points out the Danish
men are wimps so they're easy to manipulate. The women are a bit
tougher but they seem to like my 'bad boy 'attitude since it's so
different than the local boys.
Living here has given me a new perspective on the path the US is on.
However, Hillary and Obama would be considered conservatives in
Denmark so we still have a ways to fall. Guys like Ron Paul are a
complete mystery to them, but to their credit they at least know who he
is.

Keep up the good work
Rick

막 당신의 소개글과 Phillip씨의 덴마크와 덴마크인들에
대한 글을 Rense.com에서 읽었습니다.
덴마크에서 지난 6년간 살아온 미국인으로서 Phillip씨가
덴마크인과 덴마크라는 나라를 기가 막히게 잘 표현해
놓았다는 말씀을 드려야 겠네요.
저는 여기서 존웨인 이미지의 미국인의 모습을
부각시키는 걸 즐기고 있어서, 어떤 논쟁이든지
항상 반대자의 입장쪽에 서고는 합니다.
덴마크인 사무실 동료들 전체가 저 한명이랑 붙어야
싸움의 균형이 맞아요.
Phillip씨가 지적해 놓았듯이 덴마크 남자들은 완전
약골들이거든요. 그래서 다루기가 쉽죠.
여자들은 좀 더 거친거 같습니다만,
오히려 덴마크 여자들은 제 이런 '나쁜남자' 이미지를
좋아하는 것 같아요.
왜냐면 덴마크 남자들의 모습이랑 완전 다르니까요.
여기서 살면서 현재 미국이 나아가고 있는 방향에
대해서 새로운 관점을 갖게 되었습니다.
여기서는 힐러리나 오바마가 보수적으로 간주될
정도니까요, 아직 미국은 더 추락할 여지가
아직 많이 남아있군요.
론 폴과 같은 사람들은 덴마크인들에게는
미스테리한 존재긴 하지만
적어도 덴마크 사람들이 론 폴이 누군지는
알고 있다는 거에 점수를 줘야겠네요.

좋은 글 계속 쓰세요.
Rick의 댓글

*전체주의적이고 극단적으로 좌파적인 덴마크 사람들의
사고방식으로는 자유주의 시장경제를 강조하는 론 폴과
같은 사람은 그야?

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    Busan Grow House

    This is the review of the 6th month of Busan Grow ClinicI planted a total of 2,500I'm in my mid-30s and I thought about it for a long timeThe director has experienced hair loss in the past and is serious enough to get a certificate in the U.S., and I got trust from seeing him continue researching, so I got a procedure at the hospitalAlso, it was considered that only one case a day was done to manage surgery fatigue and to do it sincerelyThe operation was performed by non-intersectingI divided the M shape into hair loss and hair part and planted 2,500The director takes into account the ratio of your face and nose with a rulerI wanted to plant a few more millimeters, so I asked for itI'm sure the director will pick the best person considering the proportionsMy satisfaction comes first when it comes to plastic surgery, so if you want to plant moreI recommend you do that! I didn't like the M-shaped hair lossAnd I put it off because I thought the surgery would be scary and take a long timeI'm sorry I didn't get it earlierIt's so nice to wear itIt's only been 6 months, so I think I look like a baby hairI really like my forehead line when I have full hair backIt's good to wear a headband... I really like itI already like it, but the director saidIt's only 70% and it's 100% full in a yearI was even more excitedYou can't come to the hospital in person because you live abroadCheck the progress of each month through Kakao Talk and give feedbackIt was so touchingThe nurses said they're cold while getting the procedureBring me the blanket right awayPlease check my condition in betweenWhen you want to go to the bathroom or drink waterThey took good care of me, so I was able to finish the procedure wellThe recovery process is swollen, so you can swell up as if you slept after eating two bags of ramen for at least 1-2 weeksI just worked a few days later I don't know that everyone got a hair transplant because they had their hair downI noticed that my face was swollenI shaved my head because I didn't know when I put my hair downThere's no rush during the consultation processYou listened to my concerns one by oneI felt respectedI'm very satisfied with the results of the procedureIf my family or friends get it, I'd recommend this placeBelow is a picture of the 6th month before the procedure  

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    노블라인의원
    The Nobleline Center for Alopecia Care

     It's five months old. Now, in about 10 days, it will be 6 months.The dark ages went well and my head started to burn, so I'm now quite long and I'm starting to match my surrounding hair.Of course, it's still the time when the hair comes up, so it lacks density compared to areas where there was no hair loss, and when you shave your head, you can see the scalp between the planted heads. It's been less than six months, so it's natural, but in my heart, I hope I can graduate early, but I think it'll be a little hard to do that.I believe that there will be good results soon if I wait without being greedy.After four months, the skin redness at the transplant site has decreased a lot and the skin sensation has returned properly.It is often said that you may feel itchy, itchy, or dull, but there is nothing much wrong with it. I'm very satisfied with the surgery itself, but the balance on both sides is coming up a little differently, so this part is a little disappointing.They say it's going to fit well later, but it's like that now. :) 

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    헤어로의원 동탄점
    HAIRO HAIR TRANSPLANT CENTER Dongtan

    Since I was young, I have been agonizing over genetic m-shaped hairline, but I had a hair transplant surgery from Director Kim Hyuk at Dongtan Hair ClinicI didn't go to many hospitals, but after the first consultation at Dongtan Herro, the director looked carefully and the staff were kind and trustworthy, so I decided to go to this hospital right awayI really like the hairline I've transplanted since surgeryIt didn't look like a frog egg that I was worried about, and it was operated neatlyWe'll have to go through the dark ages in the future, but I hope your hair will settle down as it is, and I'll continue to take good care of it 

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    모프로의원
    Mopro Clinic

    I brought a picture of my 12 months old! I went to the hospital to see after a year, and the director said thank you for raising me well.. It's something I should be more thankful for!!Kauric braces are good, so it's my first time putting my bangs down in my life. And if I don't tell anyone around me, no one knows I've transplanted it. That's how natural it is. I recommend Mopro Clinic for Hair Transplant.[Laughing]!

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    모원성형외과의원
    MO.1 plastic surgery

    After retirement, I tend to adjust to life, manage my own and exercise steadily. I meet people often, too. But when I looked at my first family photo after retirement, my wide forehead looked more prominent than I thought. Since then, I've been seriously thinking about Hair Transplant.Is it right to make investments like this at this age at first? I also had that thought. But my family has worked hard so far, so they encouraged me to think of it as a retirement gift and try it. After hearing that, I changed my mind and looked for various reviews and received counseling. There were more people who had similar concerns to me than I thought. I was worried about not only my forehead but also my eyebrows, so I first looked at where I could transplant my hair and eyebrows together and most of all, I found out where the results came out naturally.After comparing several places, I chose the shrine MO.1 plastic surgery. The location was easy, but the design was the most satisfactory, and the most impressive was the use of micro-high magnification magnification equipment during surgery. I heard that it is a high-level enlargement equipment used for micro-surgery in university hospitals, but I thought that I could proceed more elaborately, especially in delicate areas such as eyebrows. After the consultation, I set the design and listened to the explanation of how the surgery was done once again before deciding on the surgery and booking it for the earliest possible date. And I finally had surgery today. I proceeded with a no-cutting non-cut method. Even though I retired, I had to keep meeting people, so I wanted a way for the collection to recover quickly and be less noticeable, but there was little pain than I thought, so my postoperative satisfaction was higher.The family's response was also good. It's the day, so I'm just expecting how it'll be filled, but I felt good when my family told me that it went well. Like the hairline, I'm looking forward to it because the eyebrow part looks really good. I was told that it naturally subsides over time, although there is a little redness left because it is right after surgery. Thank you to Director Jung Jae-hong for the operation well and the MO.1 plastic surgery staff for taking care of it carefully. I'll take good care of it in the future, watch the progress, and leave a review a few months later.

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    한나이브모발이식센터
    Hannaeve plastic surgery

    Hello, I'm finally leaving a review of the results for a year after surgery.As I wrote in the title, I created something out of nothing!I'm posting the pictures I've taken while going to the hospital.If you look at the preoperative pictureMy hair was in my mid to late 40s.The top of the head came off.MJ was coming up In the picture I took for four months It all fell out in the dark ages and then started to come back up.In the final year, all I can say is that it's just amazing. It feels new to continue like this.I'm not a non-hair loss person, but for me, more than anyone else's surgeryI like how I look.Don't lose your courage and try Hair Transplant.Thank you to the director of the Hannaeve plastic surgery who did well in the surgery, the kind staff and the manager every time I went.Now that I'm used to taking hair loss medicine, I'll watch my hair again.Thank you. Director Son Hyung-bin of Hannaeve plastic surgery, I highly recommend it. 

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    모나라피부과의원
    MONARA dermatology clinic

    It's already been eight months since I received the Hair Transplant from Director Kim Dae-woo.It's been 8 months and my hair is fullWhenever I look in the mirror, I'm happy with how I've changed, but thanks to the compliments from people around me These days, I'm full of confidence wherever I go and I'm having a lot of fun every day.When I first decided to operate, I hesitated most about whether it would be effective at the age of 60. However, eight months have passed since Kim Dae-woo's words, which were convinced that it was possible enough since counseling, so don't worry, I think it's proven to be a perfect reality, so I'm deeply grateful for the director's perspective and skills once again.Now, looking at the heads that are completely settled down, I'm sure that age is not a stumbling block for Hair Transplant in their 60s, but the answer is to start as soon as possible. If there are people like me who are hesitant because of their age, I would like to confidently recommend it again this time to trust Director Kim Dae-woo and take a step forward.

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    연세모벨르의원 종로본점
    The Jongno Headquarters of the Yonsei Mobel House

    I used to take medication for about 6 months because of hair loss in my early 20s, but I stopped because I didn't feel much of a crisis at the time... I regret taking it regularly Since then, it seems to have progressed gradually over time, so I recently received transplant counseling to receive medicine prescriptions.As a result of the treatment, I heard that about 4,000 hair transplants are needed based on the current condition. Considering the current state of hair in the occipital region and the possibility of additional transplants in the future, I was recommended to transplant about 2,000 hairs mainly on the hairline rather than 4,000 hairs at a timeAccording to the doctor's explanation, it is more realistic to consider transplanting the front line first and then considering additional transplants while looking at the progress and the condition of the larynx.Personally, I was a little shocked because it was progressing more than I thought, but the consultation itself didn't feel like I was recommending surgery too much, and it was very helpful because you explained it in consideration of the condition of the occipital region.It is a hospital that is satisfied overall because of its meticulous treatment and delicate counseling.If you are in your early 30s or are considering a transplant like me, it would be okay to go and get counseling.It's been about a week, but I'm satisfied and I'm considering a second transplant later, so I decided to do the injection treatment at the same time for 6 months to a year.I'll bring back the progress of the process in the future.

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    모엠의원
    MOEM Clinic

    I'm so proud to have Hair Transplant, which has been a long-cherished dream.I'm so satisfied because it was decided after a lot of searching, and everyone in the hospital is kind.There were a lot of reviews that local anesthesia hurt more than I thought, so I got scared and entered the operating room, but it's similar to Jusarang's pain, so you don't have to worryI slept in the middle I expected the surgery reservation to be 3500 mo, but I thought I needed more, so I would like to thank you for adding 3700 mo without saying anything!!It's already been a day, but I'm looking forward to a year laterThank you to everyone at the hospital, including the director, for your hard work and please continue to take good care of us!

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    헤어로의원 대구점
    HAIRO HAIR TRANSPLANT CENTER Daegu

    be worried about getting medicine for one's M-shaped forehead It's already been 9 months since we decided to have surgery When I post the first 2 weeks of reviews, I'm proud of it I had a lot of worries about the dark ages to come It's past the dark age and my hair is very natural and denseWhen I went to see him, he said it came out wellI followed how you took care of shampoo, so the dark days went wellOf course, a lot of people say we have to wait until a yearI feel like I'm already done with my hairWhen I planted it for the first time, I wanted it to grow out like this I'm happy with the design and hair, so it makes me laugh every time I look in the mirrorYou said you'd do a retouch for the parts that you feel sad about after a yearI'm still very satisfied, and I'm going to continue to manage it meticulously until a year.

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    모디헤어플란트의원
    Modi hariplant

    I'm not the type to leave a review, but I'm writing it down because I'm worried about hair loss as I get older I didn't have a lot of hair 40I think the top of my head started to look empty in the late 1990s. I didn't have a lot of hair since I was young, so I thought I would have really little hair when I get older, but that became a reality, so honestly, I was a little surprisedEspecially under bright lights, it looks empty for no reason, and when you get on the escalator on your way to take the subway, the person behind you looks nervous.. \nAnd I've been trying to take it steadily I was taking pinasteride There was a time when I changed it to Dutasteride, but in my case, the shading came out pretty bad in the beginning, so I was very nervous At some point, the amount of hair that fell out when I washed my hair increased and the top of my head looked empty, so I came back to the pinasteride\nThen an acquaintance told me to go to the hospital and get treatment, so I went to consult him, but he checked my condition carefully and explained the direction of treatment \n At first, I didn't understand well, so I kept spacing out, but the manager explained the treatment well, and the director talked realistically about the current hair condition and what I can expect from now onJeon It's in the current state\nSo I started both PDRN injection and stem cell therapy, and in the beginning, I visited the hospital about twice a week I didn't feel much change in the first few months I think that's why I thought I lost money. \n But after about five or six months, I started to feel different when I was drying my hair \nIn the past, if the upper part of the head felt drooping and splitting, the volume gradually increased and the empty part decreased.\n So just in case, when I compared it to the previous picture, the parting line was definitely different Of course, I didn't go back to my hair when I was in my 20s and 30s, but I think it's a satisfactory change considering my age and condition. At first, I wondered if the treatment would really work, but after experiencing it firsthand, I can see why there are people who are constantly receiving care Hair loss is not a problem that can be solved in a short period of time, so I think it's important to manage it consistently without worrying about it I'm going to do my best and consistently\nI'm about a year and four months from the start of treatment and I'm quite satisfied with the progress so far I'm thinking of maintaining my current condition and getting regular care so that I can get a little better

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    알파모의원
    an alpha-mocking circle

    I had M-shaped hair loss even before I got married, but I didn't pay much attention. I often wore hats while working night shifts, and I was always used to covering my hair loss by wearing hats when I was working out tennis.Then, I saw an acquaintance around me Hair Transplant and gained confidence, and thanks to my wife's recognition of the Alpha Mo clinic, I received counseling. At first, I was only going to receive counseling, but I gained faith because the director and the head of the department meticulously explained the current status, progress, and expected effects.It's been 90 days since the surgery. Most of the transplant hair is missing because it is a dark period commonly referred to after Hair Transplant, and even if you look at the picture, you can still see an empty part. At first, I was worried if it went well, but I was relieved that the head of the department recently checked the progress over the phone and informed me that my hair would start to grow in earnest around 6 months.There is not much noticeable change yet, but the hospital is constantly managing and guiding us, so we are waiting with confidence. I'm going to visit in the 9th month and get a progress diagnosis, so I'm looking forward to how naturally the hairline will be filled in the future.

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    다나성형외과
    Dana Plastic Surgery

    As for the current status and satisfaction in the 6th month, it seems that 60-70% of the final target has come up. When it first came out, it was as thin as fluffy, but now it has become quite thick to the point where it is similar to existing hair. In the past, I used to fear windy days because of cracks in my bangs or empty areas, but now I'm confident enough to make it voluminous and style it with wax even if I dry it lightly. The inkiness of the scalp and other people's flesh that I felt at the beginning of the operation are now completely back, and the scarring of the collection site or the redness of the transplant site is barely noticeable now.To give a general review, the satisfaction level is currently at its best, to the extent that it is regrettable why it was not done even a day earlier. 

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    모앤블레스모발이식
    Mo&Bless Hair Clinic

    I was struggling with emza hair loss and got help from my parents so I had a Hair Transplant at Mo & Bless!In the beginning, I had a lot of doubts about when it would grow and the result would be goodI'm glad the results were so good after trusting and following the director of Mo & Bless!!!I was worried because there was too much difference in parameters when I was in counseling, but I set the standard and tried it in an appropriate place, so I think I succeededHair Transplant There are a lot of people who do the 1st and 2nd round, but I think I succeeded at first.I think it's a good choice I'd love to make at Mo & Bless, even if something happens again as I get older in the future!

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    모다올의원
    Modaol Hair Transplant

    My forehead is wide since I was young, so I finally solved the problem of planting my hair laterI went around three hospitals and thought about it before I decided The cost was up to 1 million won, but the decision was made after the hospital surgery or the doctorI decided to take into consideration the confidence you're talking aboutThe parameters were transplanted around 3,200 hairs, and the cost was around 7 million won I was thinking about incision and non-excision, but the prognosis of surgery is similar and it seems to be different depending on the individual, so I asked for a non-excision so that I wouldn't leave a scarThere were a lot of reviews about Yang Yoo-gun at the DAEDAMO, so I got surgery from him. He's confident and I'm very nervous, so I was worried about this kind of surgery.I got the surgery well because you were so good at it.I was worried that my blood was red on the first day, but now, on the 5th day, I've been shampooing once a day, and it's all gone and I've turned black to sit on the scabI'll have to wait to see if it's okay, but so far, nothing's missing, and the blood hasn't gone away since the first dayI'm satisfied and waiting for my hair line and hair because it's dense I'll post more reviews later when I have time

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    모재성모발이식센터
    Mo Jaesung Plastic Surgery & Hair Transplant Center

    It's already been 4 months since the Hair Transplant surgery.From the second month, fluff began to come up one by one from the transplant site, and it still continues to grow.The overall density has not yet risen as expected, but compared to immediately after surgery, the change is clearly felt.In particular, the hairline is gradually becoming outlined as new hair comes up.I'm also satisfied that the director checks the progress in person every three months at the hospital.I was relieved that you explained in detail about the current status and the progress ahead.It's still in the fourth month, so I think it's early to evaluate the full-fledged results.Expectations are growing as people around me are hearing that it seems to have changed little by little.We're going to wait and see how much density and thickness will improve by the next six months, nine months, and one year.I'll also leave the next progress and review honestly.

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    모더함의원 모발이식센터
    Moderhamm Clinic — Hair Transplant Center

    "Modern hospital reviews the day after male non-intersected Hair Transplant surgery" ✔ Surgical type (Hair Transplant or hairline correction): Hair Transplant ✔ Name of hospital (no initials): Apgujeong Mo + Theham Clinic ✔ Hair loss type: Frontline down + Front density + Em-self-oriented (ex. Emza hair loss, crown hair loss, frontal hair loss, wide forehead, female hair loss, hairline correction, not hair loss) ✔ Expiration period: the day after surgery ✔ Number of wool (clothes): 3196 wool ✔ Cost of Hair Transplant: KRW 8 million ✔ Collection method: Non-cut micro-hydric cut (ex. Cut hair transplant, non-cut hair transplant, partial cut, no cut) ✔ Transplantation method and doctor/nurse transplantation: Planting machine & doctor transplantation ✔ Progress and photos:

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    헤어로의원 전주점
    HAIRO HAIR TRANSPLANT CENTER Jeonju

    I write a review after two months of reporting a year.In conclusion, if you compare the picture you received after 9 months It's definitely thicker, but I think I've gained more strength.After getting Hair Transplant, I changed my diet and shampoo for about a year. I took care of smoking/drinking by reducing the number of times, but I got compensation I'm feeling the best because I'm in a good mood.I'm happy that I was able to achieve the design I wanted.My co-workers saw my hair and got interested in it I had a lot of colleagues, so I recommended some of them He's getting treatment and getting results. He always says he's thankful when he encounters me He's buying coffee I'm also taking care of my scalp I'm thinking about getting it, but I think it's better to take care of hair loss in advance.It's too fast when you suddenly have an "m" shape and start to fall out.Then I'll graduate from hair loss^^

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    인천 맘모스헤어라인의원
    Incheon Mammoth Hair Restoration Center

    The laryngeal pain that I was worried about was only slightly uncomfortable on the night of the surgery. From the next day, I didn't feel any pain at all, so there was no problem with my daily life.Rather, the discomfort of not sleeping comfortably was greater than the pain.Finally, the birth period is over, so from today, normal shampoo will be used. I visited the hospital, met the director, and checked the progress, and I can see that the transplant hairs are very tightly embedded as the dead skin cells fall. The line is also the natural hairline I wanted, and I think it came out well without being excessive. The part where the back of the head is collected is already grown, so when the back of the head falls down, it is not noticeable and there is no pain at all.Thank you to the nurses who kept checking so that the operating room atmosphere was not heavy and the managers who cared for the postoperative care service. The dark age will come now, but I'll take good care of my mental health. If you have any questions, please leave a comment and I'll answer as far as I know. 

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    moart clinic

    Hello.It's a review of the nine months that you use for about 10 months.I'm very, very satisfied.There are also regrets that I should say more when I do it.Thank you, Gangnam farmer.

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    Yong Doctor Hair Transplant Surgery

    I received my first Hair Transplant in 2011 and it's already my third Hair Transplant!I don't like the first and the second. I think it's the last oneI really worked hard to find a hospitalThen, Dr. YONG came up on the YouTube algorithm and I happened to watch itWatching your YouTube videos, I felt like you were serious about hair loss and Hair Transplant.I made a consultation appointment with my gut feeling that this could be the last Hair Transplant hospital.It's my third surgery, so I wrote down a lot of questionsI asked them one by one, but they answered everything calmly without showing any signs of annoyanceI've got a lot of trustAll I wanted was an M-shaped reinforcement of my bangs and a small transplant of the top of my headThe hair stylist made the front line really neatThe top of the head was transplanted to the extent that I wanted!I'm very satisfied with the density that I was disappointed with after the second surgeryEven the top of the head, which looked slightly empty, feels like it's filled up properly after surgery, so it's goodDirector Kim Yongbin, thank you for ending the Hair Transplant's journey in a great way!

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    포헤어 비절개모발이식센터
    FORHAIR Hair Transplant Korea

    It's already been four months since I received a non-cutaneous Hair Transplant at Apgujeong FORHAIR Hair Transplant Korea.After the most frustrating period due to the dark age, I think I have entered a section where I can see changes little by little, so I leave the progress.Before the surgery, the M-shaped part became deeper, so I felt like I could see an empty space even if I put my bangs down, but now every time I look in the mirror I think I'm getting a definitely different impression from before. Of course, it's not yet complete, but it's time for transplants to start showing up I think the expression is just right.In the 2nd or 3rd month, I honestly was a little concerned because there was more loss than I thought. Especially during the dark ages, there was a big difference between left and rightThe left side is missing more than the right side. So when I took a picture, it looked empty on one side There were times when I wondered if it was growing well.However, the situation has changed a little as we entered the fourth month. The hair started to come back up from where it fell off Now, the right side has grown faster, and the length difference is visible. At first, I thought this was okay, too When I went to see the progress, I asked you, and each hair has a different growth cycle, so there are cases where one side comes up first or the length is different I heard it's more common than you think. I've been told that it will be naturally matched over time, so I'm not paying much attention now.Personally, the most I feel this month is the change in the atmosphere in the front line. In the past, when I put my hair back If you saw the M-shaped part first, now the fine hairs come up and the line is much softer. The density is still high However, compared to preoperative photos, the empty space itself seems to have decreased a lot.And it's working well even when you check the progress It doesn't end like that. It's about the current state and the process of change It was nice to explain about it. I was worried about the different growth rates in the dark ages It reduces unnecessary stress. After receiving follow-up care, I thought I understood a little why many people were looking for forehair.It's still in its fourth month, so it seems that the most frustrating section of the dark age has definitely passed. I think it's a process where new hair is getting thicker and thicker, and it's a time when changes occurI'm trying to manage it hard and wait and see how much more different it will be.

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    압구정 맘모스헤어라인의원
    Mammoth Hair Restoration Center, Apgujeong

     I visited the hospital to see the last 10 monthsNow that I'm in my 10th month, my hair has grown a lot, so I think I'll be able to put it behind my ears soon. There's nothing to take care of because it's well-worn, so can I just leave it to you on time??? My grown hair is very natural and the part where I pulled it out is not obvious, so I don't know if I pulled it out even if I look closelyAnd I think it's a good thing that I got a hairline transplant without getting a hairline tattooI didn't need follow-up care because it came out well, but I was so happy that you took care of your scalp until the 10th month! They take care of the scalp very well, and the director and the staff are all kind.And the location is only 10 minutes away from the express bus terminal and it's just a minute away from the subway station, so it's convenient to go from other regions, and when other people ask you to recommend hairline, do you recommend Mammoth Hair Restoration Center?????? Be prosperous!!

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    Rizmo Clinic - Busan Branch

     It's already been 10 months since I had Hair Transplant surgery. At the time of the operation, I performed it in a non-cut and non-cut manner, so it was really comfortable and good when I went back to my daily life or work because it was almost invisible right after the operation. Now, 10 months later, the hairline is very natural like my original hair, so I'm very satisfied every time I look in the mirror. If you have any questions about the process or changes you have managed throughout the dark ages, please feel free to leave a comment. I hope we can share a lot of good information with each other. Thank you.

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    MOBARUN HAIR SURGERY

    I'm a man who had a hair transplant a year ago at Morbarn Clinic.My forehead is naturally wide, and I think my hair is going onWhile visiting the hospital, I visited Han Sang-bo, the director I met on TV and various media, and received an Hair Transplant. The counselors and the nurses were very kind and they checked very carefully. It's just been a year now, and I'm satisfied with the results and the birth rate is really good even though my hair is malignant. Thank you!

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    뉴헤어모발성형외과의원
    NEWHAiR

     <Before surgery> <After surgery>This is the review of the 7th day after Hair Transplant surgery.I was worried that the upper hair loss was getting worse, so I decided on Hair Transplant. On the day of the surgery, I had a little pain and swelling on my forehead, but it wasn't as bad as I thought, and I followed the precautions I was guided by taking the prescribed medicine.For two to three days after surgery, I was careful not to touch the transplant site, and I was also careful not to press my head when sleeping. I'm currently on day 7 and most of the swelling has subsided and there's almost no pain. There are still scabs left, but we are carefully managing them because it is an important time for birth.It's still too early to judge the results, but so far, I'm recovering without much inconvenience and I'm satisfied.I'll watch the progress and leave a review in my spare time.

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    Mowoolim Clinic

    Apgujeong reverse hair transplant is a review of Mo Woo-rim clinic before the operation He had a wide forehead and an M shapeI got counseling at the Mo Woo-rim clinic after my acquaintance's recommendation, and I got counseling from Han Ji-youngHe was kind in counseling and recommended by Director Lee Seung-ah, so I set the parameter to 1,700mo after consultation with the directorI'm scared and nervous, but I liked that both the staff and the director were kind I didn't feel any pain because of anesthesia on the day of surgery After that, the pain was okay because I took the medicine, but I had surgery with an incision, so it was quite painful because the incision came into contact with it when I slept, right????I thought I should plant more because human greed is endless, but first of all, I hope the transplant hair is well-established, so I hope it's maintained well

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    Momo Clinic

    Hello, I'm leaving a final review of a year after transplanting.I've left a few reviews after surgery before, but it's annoyingI think it'd be better to share the final review after I forget about it because my hair grows well I'll leave it.I've had hair loss for a long time, and I've had scalp injections 10 years ago, and in between, I've had avodat It's not easy to eat after eating some, so I stopped and left it unattended, but decided to Hair Transplant last year.The hair loss got worse when I left it unattended.I live in Ulsan, but when I looked for it, there was no Ulsan hair loss hospital, so I looked into Busan. Looking at the reviews of the DAEDAMO, there were many hospitals in Hair Transplant, so I was consulted to Busan, and the consultation with Director Ko Sang-jin was the best, and the hospital was big, so I got a transplant here.I got it as a non-cutter, and I took a day off from transplant and worked, and it was good that my recovery was really fast.In the beginning, I had itchy things for a few days, so I was thinking about sleeping with plastic gloves on, but not for a long time. I think it was for a couple of daysThe dark ages came for about two months, and by the time I was six months old, my hair grew a lot.It's been a year now, and I heard that it usually takes about a year to complete your hair, but by my standards, it was almost completed after about 10 months.I'm going to upload a comparison shot between the picture I posted last time and the picture of my first year.Grow up, everyone.

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    MOUDA CLINIC

    I chose it because I believed in the beauty and meticulousness of the female director of the MOUDA CLINIC.The consultation was also conducted only with the director, and he told me his questions clearly, so I decided right away.It's been three weeksExcept for not being able to cool down shampoo, I've been doing well so that I don't feel too sick, itchy, or uncomfortable.I'm relieved to hear that it went well.In particular, I wanted to fill only the empty spots naturally, but I like it even more because it transplanted so that I can save my baby hair.In the second week, I also sprayed medicine on the occipital region and received laser treatment.I'm really looking forward to the future.My scalp is still a little red, but it'll get better over time.I'm not really worried. 

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    부산 맘모스헤어라인의원
    Mammoth Hair Restoration Center Busan

    It's already been nine months since I started Hair Transplant. I think time has gone by really quickly.For postoperative management, I have been taking and managing the medicine steadily as the hospital guided me. I was worried at the beginning, but as time went by, I saw a change, and now I'm quite satisfied.As expected, I think it was a good choice to choose Mammoth Hair Restoration Center. Whenever I come to see the progress, I am always grateful for checking the condition meticulously and responding kindly.Although it is still satisfactory, I am looking forward to the future as the normal Hair Transplant can continue to change from a year to a year and a half.I hope my experience will be a little helpful to those who are considering surgery. Thank you to the Mammoth Hair Restoration Center medical staff for their kind management and care. 

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    WOOMCHAN Hair Transplant Clinic

    I visited after thinking about the Hair Transplant, and I was relieved that you were very kind to proceed with the consultation. The director meticulously conducted the entire process from counseling to surgery, and explained in detail the questions in the middle. You took care of it carefully so that you could receive it comfortably on the day of surgery, and the results are satisfactory. I would like to recommend it to those who are concerned about Hair Transplant. 

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    Yonsei Mobelle Clinic - Incheon Branch

    I transplanted 3,000 hairs with a non-excisional Hair Transplant.It's the 2nd week so farI searched a lot about this place and chose a hospitalDirector, the consulting teacher, in detail to make it easier to understand Thank you for letting me knowI was thinking about getting my forehead done, but I was going to get surgery on my stomach I heard it's better to get a forehead treatment after a transplant Transplantation first  I did. I'm very interested in doing facial procedures. ^^I did partial anesthesia. The surgery was relatively easy As the hospital told me, I took good care of it after the surgeryI was worried that it would work because my hair was thin and thinIt's been 2 weeks, so I don't know yet, but I didn't have hair in the beginning I think the director did a good job These hairsI'm looking forward to it when I think it's growing fast.in the next four months  I'll upload another picture

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    Modeunmo Clinic

    Hello, I got a Hair Transplant for an incision about 10 years ago.I feel like I'm losing density againWe had a re-movement ceremony ^^I was much more satisfied than before because I didn't have any scarsI've been through the dark ages before, but I still can't get used to itI'll think it's just the beginning, and I'll work harder to show you good results

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    인천 마이모 모발이식의원
    MYMO HAIR TRANSPLANT CENTER Incheon

     After removing the scab.There is still a redness in the transplanted part.And the back of the head collected from the hair is also very slightly painful and sometimes itchy. It was said to be a normal thing in the recovery phase.From now on, the transplanted hair will fall out for about a month, so I'll take good care of it.

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    Yonsei Mobelle Clinic - Daegu Branch

    Actually, I had a Hair Transplant by incision about 10 years ago. I was satisfied at the time, but as time passed, hair loss progressed little by little, In particular, the density of the part in the middle looked very empty. It bothers me every time I look in the mirror, so I ended up looking for reoperation.There were only two things I saw importantly while looking for a reoperation hospital.The first is a place with a lot of experience in non-cutaneous Hair Transplant. To be honest, I remember having a hard time during the first incision This time, I thought I should definitely make it non-cut.The second is where the doctor conducts the surgery himself from the beginning to the end. I went to counseling, and the actual transplant was done by a doctor There are places where other people host. It took me a while. Aside from the cost, it's a reoperation, so from beginning to end I wanted a place where the director would do it himself.I got counseling from various places and got counseling from Yonsei Mobel You explained it in great detail. Especially in the case of reoperation like me, the part that was transplanted before became hard They said that if you use only a hair implanter, you can get a popping phenomenon where your hair sticks out.That's why I was recommended to use the slit and the hair implanter together to increase the birth rate. I'm not just sticking to one method It was reliable that we proceeded according to the current scalp condition.Most of all, the slit process was also carried out by the doctor himself. These seem to have been the biggest reasons for deciding on a hospital.It hasn't been a long time since the surgery, but the progress so far is satisfactory. The transplant area is cleaner than I thought, The actual surgery process was not much different from the explanation I heard during the consultation.Of course, we'll know the final result after a few more months I have an expectation that it will settle down well with the current feeling.

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    JP성형외과
    JP Hair Transplant Clinic

    I planned a Hair Transplant but it didn't work out.I recently went back to consultation and had Hair Transplant two weeks ago.But this time, we got an eyebrow transplant consultation and we did the transplant togetherAs shown in the picture, the hair implanted in the transplant area is well positionedMost of the redness and scabs are goneAs you can see from the pictures before the surgeryIt didn't grow at all in the empty areaSo I got a small 170-mo transplantI think it looks much more natural, so I like it. What do you think…My forehead was a bit swollen in the beginning, but after a week, I recovered naturallyI'm comfortable with my daily lifeThe occipital collection area doesn't show as much as you think because your hair growsIt's definitely a good feeling to cut the nasal sectionIf it's dark, your hair will fall outI'm a little worried, but I hope you sleep like this

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    광주 압구정모비앙의원
    apgujeong mobien

    Mobien came to see people around him after the procedure.The person who got the procedure from Choi Hyun-yong looked so good that I also got a transplant from Choi Hyun-yong. Having a hard time with sleep anesthesia, I was very nervous about having to do it twice, but the nurse and director next to me kept talking to me and making me comfortable, so I was able to relax and get a transplant comfortably. The director set the transplant line so naturally that it looks like my original line, so I'm so happy that I don't care about my daily life. I'm looking forward to the future because I've heard that the hairline looks much better because it's alive.  

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    MOMO's Suwon branch

    Hello~ As expected, transplantation is the answer. I'm also experiencing the results over time after transplanting and I'm directly experiencing the words. I've been getting counseling because I wanted to get a Hair Transplant for a while, but I delayed it because I couldn't find time and hesitated, and I finally got a transplant last year, and the result is amazing.The deep m-shape disappeared. I think I'm so free to do my hairstyle I wanted to grow out my hair again. Sports hair? I cut my hair close to a half-length hair Overall, it's growing again. When my hair grows completely, I'm going to try something I couldn't do before because of the m shapeWhen I was looking for surgery, I was consulted at a hospital in Seoul, and when I saw the establishment of Momo Suwon branch, I found out that I had surgery, and I highly recommend Director Moon Hyo-seop.I looked up the reviews of the past and asked the hospital, but the director had more than 20 years of Hair Transplant experience and he was a complete veteran with more than 5,000 surgeries. I think the most important thing in Hair Transplant is the doctor's career and skill.I had a common m shape, but I heard that the director was a person who did a lot of difficult surgeries, but the class definitely feels different.Suwon people who are looking at my reviews, don't go to Seoul and the Suwon branch in MOMO HAIR TRANSPLANT that I operated on is good.The director's career is clear, and I believe MOMO HAIR TRANSPLANT is a famous hospital in Seoul.I'm 10 months old, but I think the results are all out. I don't know if I'll leave a review next timeEveryone, finish the "m" shape and take over [Laughing out loud]

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    HAIRO HAIR TRANSPLANT CENTER Busan

    as a result of poor hair loss managementMy hair that only fell out on my forehead... It's more than my hair getting widerIt's starting to go up to the top of my headI think I'll have to wear a wig if it gets worseI went to some consultations in Seomyeon, where there are a lot of Hair Loss Hospital.I heard that all the places I went to have a lot of parameters to plantIf you have to plant a lot, I think someone with a long career will do wellI got a Hair Transplant from HAIRO HAIR TRANSPLANT CENTER in Busan.I shaved my headThe surgery took a long time, but they kept checking the inconvenienceI remember having a comfortable surgeryI checked the progress, and so far, I've heard that he's in good conditionWhen I look at the line and hair density in the mirror, it looks okayI feel like I got it from a skilled directorI received prescriptions and explanations on how to take care of themI need to take care of it as I've been taught

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    GLOWELL

    I'm 6 months old after receiving a transplant with 3,000 non-cutaneous hairs. If you look at the picture that I just finished the design before the surgery, you'll know The forehead line was also messy and unbalanced, so I didn't want to see it. So during the consultation, I asked the hair stylist to correct my hair line I said I wanted to keep my bangs cool You made the line look natural according to my face proportion During the dark ages, my hair fell out quite a bit, so I had a hard time It grew amazingly from the next month It's good enough to look at it now. It's only been 6 months, so my hair isn't 100% grown I heard that it needs to be more dense Honestly, I'm satisfied with how it is right now It was done through a nasal incision, and the place where the back of the head was collected was recovered quickly I didn't have much inconvenience in my daily life. Above all, as the hairline becomes neat, the impression itself seems to have improved. I'll come back with a review later when it's been a year and it's fuller! 

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    MOMO HAIR TRANSPLANT

    Hello, I'm going to write the last review after the transplantI left a few reviews after getting the transplant, but I feel strange because the results are completely out and I leave themI saw the results of a senior who recommended Hair Transplant to me, and I saw a lot of other people's reviews through DAEDAMO.I feel new after getting such good results.I lived as an M and started taking medicine to protect my remaining hair, and with the company's senior recommendation and bragging I was introduced to the hospital and had surgery last year while taking summer vacationThere are many Hair Transplant hospitals in Gangnam, but Momo Plastic Surgery is the hospital that has been verified by seniors.I didn't go anywhere else, and I got counseling right here and even had surgery.There is a lot of information in the DAEDAMO, so everyone is quick, but let me introduce a little bit of the process I went through.First of all, it was an M-shape, and I got a 2,500-mo estimate, and I had surgery, but both incisions and non-incisions were possible After thinking about it, I chose an incision to save a little money, and because it was an incision, there was no shaved head on the back, so it was better in this area because it didn't even show the back of the hair after surgeryAfter 2 weeks, I started removing the thread and getting my fingerprint shamp done, but when I washed my hair for 2 weeks, I felt a little uncomfortable and bothered a lot.The dark age is an essential process that most people go through when they Hair Transplant, but when it comes down, it's a time where I feel bittersweet and worried.It was a time when I waited, watching all the hair that had been transplanted and planted so heavily disappeared at some point and became a mountain of Mindung again.The dark age was maintained for about three months.And around the halfway point, the heads began to grow again in the empty area, and from then on, the heads came up in abundance like running without hesitation, which is really touching.I personally felt the surprise of medical technology.When I think about it when I was young, I remember people living bald or wearing lame wigs, but now I'm turning my hair back, which was gone due to Hair Transplant.I got the hair transplant cost well, so I had surgery, and the result was very satisfactory. Thank you for the MOMO HAIR TRANSPLANT in many ways.I hope you all get good results with your Hair Transplant.

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    Momo Clinic

    Hello, I'm keeping a record of the transplant.Actually, I didn't think I would be the Hair Transplant right away.I've been in the M shape for a while, and my wife has been telling me that the top of my head seems to be losing some weightI didn't mean to get my Hair Transplant straight away, but maybe it's because I saw it on my phone regarding hair loss and Hair Transplant...The algorithm brought me content related to Hair Transplant.As I was forced to watch it, I was curious and wanted to find out how much it cost, so I took some counseling as an experience, and some places were really expensive and told to operate right away, and consultations varied slightly from hospital to hospitalSome places are good to have surgery, but you said it was up to me to make the decision, and it was good because you explained the overall picture before and after the surgery and the expected hair loss progress. When I listened to the explanation and looked at the pictures of other people's surgeries, I didn't want to have surgery right away, but I couldn't think of Hair Transplant in my head.I'm not the type of person who decides something so quickly in my life, but I keep thinking about it and recommending my wife to have surgery, so I decided to get surgery by Kang Dong-woo, who had good counseling and cost well, and I completed 3,500-mo surgery. 3,000 M-shaped and 500-shaped transplants were received on the top of the head.When I first saw the contents related to Director Kang Dong-woo, I felt something gentle and likeable, but I thought positively when I received actual counseling. Above all, as mentioned above, I was impressed by your explanation from my point of view and comprehensive counseling such as what will happen in the future.I operated on the M shape and the top of my head at once, and I was prescribed medicine and started taking it.In my standards, I finished the surgery unexpectedly, but I'm looking forward to a good result because I had the surgery.I wonder what other people think.

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    모제림성형외과의원
    MOJELIM Hair Transplant

    It's already been a year since I started Hair Transplant.I can't think of a frog tadpole.. It's become so natural now that I don't even know if I've had hair loss.. I'm not sureThis was before the surgery  Looking at it like this, it was really bad..It was a time when I was covering up the M shape because I was embarrassed just by blowing the wind..And on the first day of surgery It was really dense lolI thought I wanted this to be my head, and I remember being really happy.And it's been 6 months I was actually a little worried at this time.Anyway, I knew it was going to get denser, but it was a time when it was full.And this is my last year's hair lol I slept really well, right?I'm really confident nowI don't care whether it's windy or notThese days, I'm so happy to find my bangs that were abundant in my 20s.It's all thanks to the director Choi Dongwook who did a great job Thank you!

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    바람부는날에도 성형외과의원
    Banal Plastic Surgery Clinic

    My hair is thin and thin, so I visited at first as a Hair Transplant consultation, but after the consultation, I heard that forehead reduction is more suitable for my condition, so I proceeded. Director Park Soo-ho explained the operation method, recovery process, and genuine endotin used in detail, so I trusted him. There was a private recovery space before and after the surgery, so I was able to relax a lot with my guardian and the overall movement and care were comfortable. It's not that I don't have scars at all, but it's a line just below my hair, so it's not as noticeable as I thought, and people around me don't know at all. I've always been stressed out with a wide forehead since I was young, but now I feel confident tying my hair, and I feel like I've solved my lifelong worries, so I'm so satisfied :)

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    Rizmo Clinic - Daejeon Branch

     Hair loss has progressed slowly since about five years ago, and at first, it didn't matter, but at some point, it bothers me every time I look in the mirror. I tried medicine and managed it, but there was no noticeable change, so I ended up thinking about Hair Transplant. While looking up various hair loss communities, I was looking for information toward Daejeon Hair Transplant and naturally learned about Daejeon Rizmo Clinic.It could have been cumbersome to find out the hospital from Nonsan where I live to Daejeon, but looking at the reviews, the trust in the Rizmo Clinic in Daejeon gradually built up. It wasn't just an advertising feeling, but there were a lot of actual experiences, and there were a lot of stories that the results were natural, so I was inclined.In the end, I decided to get counseling in person, and I decided that the results were more important than the trouble of moving from Nonsan to Daejeon.When I got counseling, I understood why many people choose Daejeon Rizmo Clinic.The consultation process was very meticulous, and I trusted you because you carefully explained the design and implantation direction suitable for the current condition.I proceeded with a total of 4554 hats in a non-cut manner, and it was impressive to point out exactly what was needed without feeling overly recommended.Even among hospitals in Hair Transplant, Daejeon, I felt that such detailed counseling was not common.On the day of the surgery, it was more nerve-wracking than expected, but the process itself was relatively comfortable.It was a non-cut method, so there was little burden of recovery, and I was relieved that you checked the condition in between. Above all, I felt the proficiency of the medical staff, and I felt that the speed and concentration of progress were quite high.I was glad that I chose Daejeon Rizmo Clinic at this time.It hasn't been long yet, but overall satisfaction is high so far. We have to wait and see the progress in the future, but I feel like I got the first button right. If you've been worried about moving to Daejeon, I think you can consider the results first like me. If you are thinking about Hair Transplant in Daejeon, I think Rizmo Clinic in Daejeon is a good option to consider.

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    Moment Clinic

    It's already been 6 months since the surgery. There was a holiday holiday, and I was a little busy, so I couldn't go to the hospital in the 5th month, and I went to see it for 6 months not too long ago. When I had my first surgery, I was very much waiting for my hair to come up, but now I'm amazed to see how it changes little by little every time I look in the mirror.I saw little hairs coming up from the third to fourth months, and now that I'm in the fifth month, I felt like the number of hairs coming up has increased significantly. In the past, the scalp looked more prominent when the top of the head or the front was reflected in the light, but these days, it looks much less empty than before even in the same lighting. It's almost six months old now, but it's definitely different. The biggest difference is hair thickness. After six months, I can see a lot of children getting thicker like existing hair. The line is being held naturally as it was designed for the first time, and now even when I look in the mirror, I rarely feel as stressed as I used to. Of course, I don't think it's complete yet. The density is likely to rise further in the future, and there seems to be room for a little more filling in the middle. The director said that this is the middle process, but I'm looking forward to it because it will become thicker and denser in about six more months. The progress so far is satisfactory enough, and I'm waiting to see how much better it will get in the future.In the next review, I'll leave it with a richer look.

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    Motion Hair Clinic

    In my early 20s, I decided to have a hair transplant to correct M-shaped hair loss and lower forehead height, and when I first visited the hospital, both doctors and nurses gave me a reliable explanation, so I started the surgery right away. After that, the scab was removed in the second week, and unlike other hospitals, I was informed that I could start drinking and smoking, and from the first month, the transplant hair began to fall out, and now I have almost no hair.

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    MOAMAN CLINIC

    One month after surgery, a brief review is added. Two weeks after pulling out the thread, I visited the hospital for dead skin care. It's a 200,000 won service, so I just spray the medicine, wash my hair, and soak it in infrared for 10 minutes. (If I pay for it, I'll get it approved...) I took a few pictures and got prescribed hair loss medicine and came down.. The next visit is in nine months. After about a month, the dark ages seem to begin. After the fingerprint shampoo, the existing hair and transplant hair fall out a lot. Slight pain in the incision/transplant area when shampooing.

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